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Kill HB 1572 before we’re all murderers
March 16th, 2009 by Johnathan

The controversial HB 1572 is before the Senate this week, drawing support from almost all the usual suspects — except the Catholic Church, which says it’s far too vague.

Aside from its stated goal (which is nowhere to be found within the actual measure), HB 1572 would literally make anything causing a human cell to die into a murder. So don’t even think about stem cell research.  Or cancer treatment.  Or surgery — wouldn’t want to carelessly slice away a few cells now.  On the flip side, if anyone lands a square punch on you, you can nail them on a Class AA felony and send them to prison forever.

I can see it now — police flushing the bars of Grand Forks and locking every drunk college student away for the murder of their own brain cells.  If the Senate doesn’t flush this bill down the toilet, that’s what we’ll be staring at.


10 Responses  
Donkephant writes:
March 16th, 2009 at 13:34

The bill “literally” says that “a human being includes any organism with the
genome of homo sapiens”. An organism can be either unicellular or multi-cellular. Organisms with the genome of homo sapiens are a multi-cellular organism. That means that our “organism” is comprised of lots and lots of cells that make up our specialized organs as a whole make us, us.

Scientifically, killing off one cell in a multi-cellular organism would not be defined as murder via this bill. Either you’ve been drinking the kool-aid, or are just misinformed.

Does ND HB 1572 Make Us All Murderers? | Donkephant writes:
March 16th, 2009 at 14:20

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Johnathan writes:
March 16th, 2009 at 17:25

The problem, among others, is that the bill offers no legal definition of “organism” — leaving it up to whoever enforces the bill to interpret.

Depending on who that is, they could declare jihad in any of these categories and have a legal backing for it.

Nulono writes:
March 17th, 2009 at 07:11

This says nothing about killing brain cells. You are indeed drinking the Kool-aid. Go back to 8th grade.

Johnathan writes:
March 17th, 2009 at 10:41

What a witty and incisive argument! I guess it really doesn’t matter that this law really isn’t a law, so much as something that plays around with definitions and ultimately invites the courts to make something up.

I guess I was naive to think that when you wrote a law, you have to say what it was actually about, and make it specifically apply to that case.

Nulono writes:
March 17th, 2009 at 12:00

This law is just to provide legislative intent, so, no, you don’t.

rob writes:
March 25th, 2009 at 13:32

middle school biology has this order: cell, tissue, organ, organism. so, a hair cell is not an organism. the only human cell that can be considered “an organism with the genome of homo sapiens” is a single-celled human embryo. hence the whole debate about embryonic stem cell research.

Kyle writes:
March 28th, 2009 at 10:46

It seams that you do not realize that human life is created then destroyed when embryonic stem cell research is occurring, and human life is not destroyed ( I have not murdered) if I where to kill some of my brain cells by drinking. The big deal with many people here is that we do not approve of Killing! I believe that killing a fellow humans life is wrong even if it is very small. You were all once this “thing” that you bring death too.

Kyle writes:
March 28th, 2009 at 10:48

So to sum it up, you are already a murderer you just won’t admit it.

j5mc writes:
April 3rd, 2009 at 16:33

[...] 1572 has been defeated in the Senate, ensuring that its ridiculous consequences can never be seen in our [...]

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