Comments on: Kill HB 1572 before we’re all murderers http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699 What's Left in North Dakota Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:57:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: j5mc http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3493 j5mc Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:03:00 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3493 [...] 1572 has been defeated in the Senate, ensuring that its ridiculous consequences can never be seen in our [...] [...] 1572 has been defeated in the Senate, ensuring that its ridiculous consequences can never be seen in our [...]

]]> By: Kyle http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3475 Kyle Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:18:28 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3475 So to sum it up, you are already a murderer you just won't admit it. So to sum it up, you are already a murderer you just won’t admit it.

]]> By: Kyle http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3474 Kyle Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:16:48 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3474 It seams that you do not realize that human life is created then destroyed when embryonic stem cell research is occurring, and human life is not destroyed ( I have not murdered) if I where to kill some of my brain cells by drinking. The big deal with many people here is that we do not approve of Killing! I believe that killing a fellow humans life is wrong even if it is very small. You were all once this "thing" that you bring death too. It seams that you do not realize that human life is created then destroyed when embryonic stem cell research is occurring, and human life is not destroyed ( I have not murdered) if I where to kill some of my brain cells by drinking. The big deal with many people here is that we do not approve of Killing! I believe that killing a fellow humans life is wrong even if it is very small. You were all once this “thing” that you bring death too.

]]> By: rob http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3464 rob Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:02:28 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3464 middle school biology has this order: cell, tissue, organ, organism. so, a hair cell is not an organism. the only human cell that can be considered "an organism with the genome of homo sapiens" is a single-celled human embryo. hence the whole debate about embryonic stem cell research. middle school biology has this order: cell, tissue, organ, organism. so, a hair cell is not an organism. the only human cell that can be considered “an organism with the genome of homo sapiens” is a single-celled human embryo. hence the whole debate about embryonic stem cell research.

]]> By: Nulono http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3448 Nulono Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:30:42 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3448 This law is just to provide legislative intent, so, no, you don't. This law is just to provide legislative intent, so, no, you don’t.

]]> By: Johnathan http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3446 Johnathan Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:11:47 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3446 What a witty and incisive argument! I guess it really doesn't matter that this law really isn't a law, so much as something that plays around with definitions and ultimately invites the courts to make something up. I guess I was naive to think that when you wrote a law, you have to say what it was actually about, and make it specifically apply to that case. What a witty and incisive argument! I guess it really doesn’t matter that this law really isn’t a law, so much as something that plays around with definitions and ultimately invites the courts to make something up.

I guess I was naive to think that when you wrote a law, you have to say what it was actually about, and make it specifically apply to that case.

]]> By: Nulono http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3445 Nulono Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:41:34 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3445 This says nothing about killing brain cells. You are indeed drinking the Kool-aid. Go back to 8th grade. This says nothing about killing brain cells. You are indeed drinking the Kool-aid. Go back to 8th grade.

]]> By: Johnathan http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3443 Johnathan Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:55:19 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3443 The problem, among others, is that the bill offers no legal definition of "organism" -- leaving it up to whoever enforces the bill to interpret. Depending on who that is, they could declare jihad in any of these categories and have a legal backing for it. The problem, among others, is that the bill offers no legal definition of “organism” — leaving it up to whoever enforces the bill to interpret.

Depending on who that is, they could declare jihad in any of these categories and have a legal backing for it.

]]> By: Does ND HB 1572 Make Us All Murderers? | Donkephant http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3442 Does ND HB 1572 Make Us All Murderers? | Donkephant Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:50:49 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3442 [...] at j5mc.com seems to think it does. HB 1572 would literally make anything causing a human cell to die into a murder. So don’t even [...] [...] at j5mc.com seems to think it does. HB 1572 would literally make anything causing a human cell to die into a murder. So don’t even [...]

]]> By: Donkephant http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699&cpage=1#comment-3441 Donkephant Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:04:54 +0000 http://www.j5mc.org/?p=699#comment-3441 The bill "literally" says that "a human being includes any organism with the genome of homo sapiens". An organism can be either unicellular or multi-cellular. Organisms with the genome of homo sapiens are a multi-cellular organism. That means that our "organism" is comprised of lots and lots of cells that make up our specialized organs as a whole make us, us. Scientifically, killing off one cell in a multi-cellular organism would not be defined as murder via this bill. Either you've been drinking the kool-aid, or are just misinformed. The bill “literally” says that “a human being includes any organism with the
genome of homo sapiens”. An organism can be either unicellular or multi-cellular. Organisms with the genome of homo sapiens are a multi-cellular organism. That means that our “organism” is comprised of lots and lots of cells that make up our specialized organs as a whole make us, us.

Scientifically, killing off one cell in a multi-cellular organism would not be defined as murder via this bill. Either you’ve been drinking the kool-aid, or are just misinformed.

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